other things like tax breaks are very important to these companies. you mentioned -- we mentioned the receive lucrative tax breaks in that area. the result of companies sort of sifting through those factors, they tend to produce real bunches of these data centers in certain parts of the country. >> are these the desired by communities? >> is a mixed bag. -- it is a mixed bag. as far as town leadership, they're like. -- liked. they attracted some other business as well. that is a positive thing. were they get criticism is in a place like quincy, they used tremendous amounts of power, far more than the town itself. they create a pretty modest number of jobs. that is a debate that goes on locally. because data centers -- it is a very secretive business. often the data centers, and i cannot think of one that has the name of the company outside the data center. it is not necessarily build great community relations. they are not much for of -- the local communities. >> why so much secretiveness? >> arit depends on who you talk to on that one. the company's